>> yeah and i asked speaker boehner that today. i said what is your leverage? and he says we kept the majority and ran on no new taxes, but the nuance here is important. and the nuance is john boehner and barack obama, and we have a story posted right now that says this barack obama didn't once mention the word race. he said he wants the wealthy to pay more. so if the president says he wants the wealthy to pay more, that means he could keep the rates the name. john boehner said he want no higher tax rates, so they aren't so far apart, but liberals will not be happy if that's the case. >> jennifer: well, unless though, if the president is able to orchestrate a way where they would generate just as much revenue in removing those deductions and loopholes from the wealthy, as they would from seeing the rates go up, what is the difference? >> i'm not denying that. but letting the top two rates expire brings in about $960 billion over ten years. that's a lot of money. that's almost enough to turn off the automatic spending cuts plus in place. i don't know that puttin